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So I just stumbled upon a somewhat interesting DA user's profile.  I won't share his identity publicly, but he's got a self-insert Sonic OC ("mobian hybrid/ werehog") that's pretty much the definition of a bad Sonic OC.  He's Silver the Hedgehog's brother, he can turn into anything at will ("especially a werehog"), and not only is his accompanying picture a screenshot from a certain Furry Dollmaker (a fact he admits to freely!), but... well... just look at him (screenshot instead of direct link, so I don't leave a trail).

I can't just walk away from this (can I?).  This is a prime example of how NOT to create a Sonic OC.  This dude is just begging to be taught a lesson; however, I'm unsure of the best way to do it.  He needs to learn the error of his ways, but I don't want to break him completely.  Does anyone have any suggestions?

Fancharacter list: STILL DISCONTINUED, BIG SURPRISE
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Lolocator Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2014
Thats some crazy design there. O.O would I be hated if I said I kind of like the design. I don't think he was trying to be story wise creative with this, I think he was just trying to create something unique by combining lots of his favourite things. In a sonic oc world though he would not fit, at all. That much I agree.
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sonicinterface Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2014
Some people are clearly not professionals when it comes to character design.  I want to help him get better, but I'm not sure I can give it in a form he'd be receptive to.
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Lolocator Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2014
Why not ask him directly, what made him create the design he had. Say its interesting as to not offend him. Understand why some things done before you try to give advise I say. It might be purely for his own fetishly needs. I myself, well im sure you notice made one particular character who is pretty much in that category I won't lie.
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sonicinterface Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2014
Hmm.
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Tmaneea Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
You can't help anyone who doesn't want to be helped. People like this either just want attention, or just to have fun. If it's the first, then giving him attention by giving him criticism is only going to make things worse. If it's the second, then criticizing him will only upset him. Either way, the best course of action is to forget about him and move on.

In the end, it's his character. He can create him any way he wants. If he wants to be a published writer someday, then that'll be different. But if he's just creating this character as a personal fantasy and a form of escape for himself, then what difference does it make if it's a good or bad character?
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:iconsonicinterface:
sonicinterface Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2014
I said before that this isn't the sort of thing I can just walk away from.  But now I'm not so sure there are any better options.
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bogm0nst3r Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014
I like it.
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sonicinterface Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2014
You do?
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bogm0nst3r Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2014
Yeah. It looks coo to me.
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ragtagwarrior Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014
In my opinion, I'd say that the best way is to let him find out for himself. I admit that the design and concept are terrible and ridiculous, but it's better if you let him walk into the pitfall that he's digging instead of trying to point it out. Unless he actually states that he wants that abomination to be critiqued, I'd leave him be to dig his own grave. If he does, then open fire and don't let up. Expose all of the problems that you have with the character and advise him on a few suggestions on how to make it better. If there are any redeeming qualities, do not forget to mention them or other people may think that you're being biased into hating the character because you're only highlighting the bad points. And how he reacts to your criticism is well beyond your control. If he strives to take your advice and improve his character, then that's it. If he breaks down because he's created something ludicrous, that's it. If he angrily objects and insults you, ignore him.

Overall, I'd say leave him be and let him dig his own grave. Unless he's open to criticism, don't bother. 
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sonicinterface Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014
He hasn't mentioned anything about criticism.  "Let him find out for himself" is an interesting suggestion, but I don't know when or how the pitfall could happen.
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ragtagwarrior Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014
If he didn't mention anything about criticism, then it's usually a sign that he doesn't want his 'awesome' character to suffer the harshness of reality.

And that suggestion is basically allowing him to discover the faults in his character by himself. as much as you'd like to point those out, I don't think it'd be a good idea to burst his bubble if he doesn't want to come out of it.
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sonicinterface Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014
Perhaps I could grease the wheels a little.  Invite him to an RP or something.
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ragtagwarrior Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014
That's one way to get to know the character. It might even show that there's more to the character than the over-the-top image and the cookie-cutter concept.
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sonicinterface Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014
Maybe, but somehow that doesn't seem likely.
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ragtagwarrior Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014
Maybe not if he uses it as a means to show off how 'awesome' his character is, and making your character(s) garbage.
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sonicinterface Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014
Let's change the subject a little.  What could lead to the fatal moment when he realizes his character isn't so hot?
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ScorchBurst Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014
Suggestions, oh have I suggestions. 
Go outside, arm yourself.
I would recommend a nerf/water gun, and a nice big bubble armor set, usually 1900 gold. 
Very nice. 

Then never go outside and wait. The spiders are coming. 
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sonicinterface Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014
...It's below freezing out.
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ScorchBurst Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014
Build a fire. 
Gather smoke signals. 
Call for help. 

Then dance until you drop. 
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sonicinterface Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014
Okay, now you're just spouting nonsense.
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ScorchBurst Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014
I wasn't before, hmph?
Sorry. 
All these people banging in my head. 

They are renovating. 
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sonicinterface Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014
I'm not having this conversation.
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ScorchBurst Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014
If you're not, then why are you here?
Maybe I'm in your head.
Could you redecorate?

....It's rather drafty. And dull. 
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blacknight7890 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014
I have people in my head telling me to kill all our friends before they have a chance to kill us.
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